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Apr 9 2008, 11:49 AM
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![]() Say NO to Whale meat! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-June 07 From: Wonglepong Member No.: 1,172 Favourite Rider: Chris Vermeulen #7 Favourite Track: Lakeside, Phillip Island ![]() |
A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not!
I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision! Let's hope the wankers at DORNA bring back Istanbul! -------------------- "There's nothing better than a cigar lit with a hundred dollar bill!"
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Apr 9 2008, 12:03 PM
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![]() Track Legend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 959 Joined: 2-September 07 Member No.: 1,318 Favourite Rider: rossi, doohan, schwantz Favourite Track: assen ![]() |
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Apr 9 2008, 12:18 PM
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Factory Rider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 26-March 08 From: In front of a computer. Duh ;) Member No.: 1,639 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden, Andrea Dovizioso, Sylvain Guintoli. And other than that I just want to see proper racing! Favourite Track: Assen, Philip Island ![]() |
Let's hope the wankers at DORNA bring back Istanbul! That is not in the hands of Dorna. Bernie Ecclestone bought the circuit last year and raised the fee from 3 million to 25 million, thus making it unaffordable for DORNA. I agree that it should come back, it is the only decent Tilke track and it works for F1 and MotoGP. I vote for South-Africa or Brasil, ok timezones for TV and I haven't visited those continents yet anyway so good for a trip too. -------------------- *yawn* How many days till Qatar?
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Apr 9 2008, 01:04 PM
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Apr 9 2008, 02:18 PM
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![]() GP Winner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 374 Joined: 28-August 07 From: "Famous Potatoes" Member No.: 1,304 Favourite Rider: Hayden, Lorenzo, Rossi, Haga, Pasini Favourite Track: Donington Park, Assen, Phillip Island ![]() |
Happy to see Shanghai go as well. I vote for adding back in another Euro track, so we get more back to back racing. How about Monza, but make it a nostalgia race where all the riders have to ride retro bikes from the 60's, time to separate the men from the boys. But seriously, I liked Istanbul, would like to see that one back. Brands Hatch perhaps, I think it's been discussed before as being too small. Magny Cours perhaps?
-------------------- "These riders are in leather suits, they're in helmets, leather suits, boots and gloves all protecting themselves." - Greg White
Give me one race at post season. Everyone gets the same bike, tires, electronics, etc. Let them race it out so we can finally put to rest who is the best "rider". |
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Apr 9 2008, 02:47 PM
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![]() World Champ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 6-September 06 From: Untied Kingdom Member No.: 594 Favourite Rider: Rossi, Sheene, Lorenzo, Pasini, Smith, Bayliss, Byrne, um...Senna, Hill & Plato Favourite Track: Donington, Le Mans, not Snetterton ![]() |
One less 6am alarm, I'm cryin'.
Going back to Brazil would be nice, Interlagos, perfect. -------------------- Congress, con·gress (käŋ′grəs)
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Apr 9 2008, 02:49 PM
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![]() MotoGP Whore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,085 Joined: 12-March 07 From: Texas Member No.: 976 Favourite Rider: 1. Hayden 2. Elias Favourite Track: Jerez, PI ![]() |
Really pleased to see they are getting rid of a Tilke track.
Maybe they are finally walking the walk when it comes to improving safety. It starts and ends with the circuit. Very little can be achieved by messing with the bikes. Anyway, I hope they bring back Brazil at the Autodromo Nelson Piquet. The circuit is scheduled for demolition but maybe it will be spared if Dorna go back? Another cool idea would be to run the same circuit twice. For instance, run Jerez on the first weekend of the season then again on the last. It would be cool to see how much the bikes progress over the course of one season. It would be interesting to see how much the race outcome changes over 1 year of bike and tire development, rider injuries, and team experience. Rotate the opening round so we don't get sick of seeing the circuit 3 times in 12 months. -------------------- ===== 1st Transcontinental Stoner/Hayden Congress ===== My crystal ball is made by Mattel. Is it accurate? Concentrate and ask again. |C|L|A|I|R|V|O|Y|A|N|C|E| |
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Apr 9 2008, 02:49 PM
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![]() cruisin thru the ether ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Member Posts: 6,190 Joined: 28-September 05 From: washington DC, USA Member No.: 123 Favourite Rider: p.j.jacobsen, s.bonsey, j.herrin, n.hayden, j.lorenzo, m. pasini a.dovizioso Favourite Track: miller motorsports park ![]() |
good. really never cared much for the track. tilke tracks suck (except istanbul of course). think i'd like to see welkom back on the calander. sucks for dazza tho...
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Apr 9 2008, 02:55 PM
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Apr 9 2008, 03:02 PM
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![]() MotoGP Whore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,085 Joined: 22-May 06 Member No.: 351 Favourite Rider: Rossi Favourite Track: Assen ![]() |
That is not in the hands of Dorna. Bernie Ecclestone bought the circuit last year and raised the fee from 3 million to 25 million, thus making it unaffordable for DORNA. Well, as everywhere else the market is driven by availability and demand. With his initial price there can't be much other than F1 racing there. If Dorna want to get it back on the schedule I'd say they have a fair chance by negotiating the price. As you say it's not the only alternative and that should give them a strong position in negotiations. I guess it's in the interest of Bernie to have MotoGP there both as the top of motorcycle racing and also as motorcycles are the least abusive to the track. |
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Apr 9 2008, 08:52 PM
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![]() Track Legend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 4-October 07 From: The bottom of a very deep dark financial hole Member No.: 1,363 Favourite Rider: Riders for Health Favourite Track: Donnybrook ![]() |
good, shanghai is a shit track...
send it to Welkom but only if they iron out some of the bumps and improve the pits -------------------- 02.10.2008 :- the single tyre rule will not fix the lack of close racing at the front - BigAl.
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Apr 9 2008, 09:51 PM
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![]() Fear and Loathing... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,368 Joined: 29-March 05 From: St. Paul, Minnesota Member No.: 6 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden Favourite Track: Road America ![]() |
Suzuka.
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Apr 9 2008, 10:04 PM
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MotoGP Whore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,131 Joined: 19-July 06 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan Member No.: 494 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden, Sebastien Bourdais Favourite Track: Laguna Seca, Road America ![]() |
A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not! I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision! Let's hope the wankers at DORNA bring back Istanbul! If they can afford Big Bernie's track fee at Istanbul. Austin, I believe Suzuka got the cut, because the bikes just got too fast for the track, and after Daijiro Kato's fatal accident. -------------------- Save Water
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Apr 9 2008, 10:15 PM
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![]() 250 Screamer ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 17-March 07 From: greece Member No.: 987 Favourite Rider: rossi, dovi, simoncelli Favourite Track: mugello, misano ![]() |
i'd like to see motogp at spa francochamps in belgium.. that would be a good replacement for shangai...
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Apr 9 2008, 10:23 PM
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MotoGP Whore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,131 Joined: 19-July 06 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan Member No.: 494 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden, Sebastien Bourdais Favourite Track: Laguna Seca, Road America ![]() |
i'd like to see motogp at spa francochamps in belgium.. that would be a good replacement for shangai... Same thing with Suzuka. Even with the modifications made that winter, the track still lacks the adequate run offs for the bikes. Eau Rogue is dangerous for cars, imagine with a bike going the same speed, if not faster? If this is true, the best track would be Istanbul or Welkhom Park in South Africa. -------------------- Save Water
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Apr 9 2008, 10:34 PM
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![]() Fear and Loathing... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,368 Joined: 29-March 05 From: St. Paul, Minnesota Member No.: 6 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden Favourite Track: Road America ![]() |
Austin, I believe Suzuka got the cut, because the bikes just got too fast for the track, and after Daijiro Kato's fatal accident. I know but from what I understand Suzuka has made a few upgrades since MotoGP left after Kato's death. It's a beautiful track and if the safety has been improved then I would love to see the series go back. -------------------- Sticks and stones, love.
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Apr 9 2008, 10:39 PM
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MotoGP Whore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,131 Joined: 19-July 06 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan Member No.: 494 Favourite Rider: Nicky Hayden, Sebastien Bourdais Favourite Track: Laguna Seca, Road America ![]() |
I know but from what I understand Suzuka has made a few upgrades since MotoGP left after Kato's death. It's a beautiful track and if the safety has been improved then I would love to see the series go back. Oh, I didn't know that. If the track had some proper run offs on every, or nearly every corner, it could be run, but then you run into two Japanese races. True most teams run bikes from Japan, the luster for bike racing is not big in Japan though. So two races would be tough, same with two USGP's. -------------------- Save Water
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Apr 10 2008, 02:05 AM
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See what you started Rog...
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Apr 10 2008, 02:23 AM
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GP Winner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 13-September 06 Member No.: 605 ![]() |
Oh, I didn't know that. If the track had some proper run offs on every, or nearly every corner, it could be run, but then you run into two Japanese races. True most teams run bikes from Japan, the luster for bike racing is not big in Japan though. So two races would be tough, same with two USGP's. where ever you heard japan doesnt like bike racing you heard wrong... Ive lived in north america and japan its MUCH MUCH MUCH more popular there then north america... also in north america you dont get the races live half the time you get those edited 1 hour speedtv or whatever its called show of just the motogp race where as they show the races live in japan from the begining 125s to motogp so please check your information before you assume! |
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Apr 10 2008, 03:10 AM
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![]() GP Winner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 498 Joined: 9-January 08 Member No.: 1,490 ![]() |
i'd like to see motogp at spa francochamps in belgium.. that would be a good replacement for shangai... spa is my all time fav track nice onboard clip on a zx9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDPVlda7zw...feature=related -------------------- SERENITY : four wheels move the body. two wheels move the soul.
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